i know that i can't write... but boy can i talk.... and i do my research ,,, and i hold the jw's on a point till they burn....if i could write what is in my head, i would have a best selling apostate book on sale. face to face i have yet found one jw, that can beat me with their bulls--t ... i will keep attacking the jw's in the bronx at every chance...john
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p.o ,co blow out 1-11-03
by johnny cip inok so last week i gave a little of the action my brother and i gave the elders in bruckner cong in the bronx... and the p.o made an appointment to talk today at 12:30 p.m. at my house ... so guess what they never showed up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
but the phone book is a great thing and we found him check this .his name is howard stern???????
so we beat him for not phoning or droppping off a note that they couldn,t make it ,as we were wasted the beautiful day in waiting,.... this is mike talking well you can guess i got poor howard on the phone what a joke an the co now these people are appointed by the holy spirt that a joke ha ha lol these people dont know there ass from there elbow this guy was in the watchtower 4 30 year and is still in the dark well i told him obout the wt inthe bomb bussisness he told me i was lieing but i told him to come with me to wall street an the un scandel as we all live in nyc myb brother was willing to pay theres day pay and take them in a limo to wall street to prove what i was saying was true you can guess even with the promise of a days pay and a 50$ steak each win or lose at the best steak house house in nyc they stilled called me a lair!!!!!!!!!
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lying decievers and their methods
by refiners fire in1922 certainly was a good year for watchtowers.
many of them were fascinating reading for an observant student of watchtower history.
recurring subjects that year revolved around russells chronology and the dogmatic insistance that russells dates were divinely inspired.
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johnny cip
THANKS AGAIN REFINERS; yes i like hard copy the best too!! it's time for me to start buying wt reprints and cd's i live in nyc and they have all the old wt SHIT at the public library on 42st i just hate going there every time....i love stumbling the jw's here at every chance... it never fails in general they can't last 10 minutes with me.... yes i 've seen some sites were they are selling these old wt's on cd... i'll stop being so cheap and buy some>>>lol john
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p.o ,co blow out 1-11-03
by johnny cip inok so last week i gave a little of the action my brother and i gave the elders in bruckner cong in the bronx... and the p.o made an appointment to talk today at 12:30 p.m. at my house ... so guess what they never showed up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
but the phone book is a great thing and we found him check this .his name is howard stern???????
so we beat him for not phoning or droppping off a note that they couldn,t make it ,as we were wasted the beautiful day in waiting,.... this is mike talking well you can guess i got poor howard on the phone what a joke an the co now these people are appointed by the holy spirt that a joke ha ha lol these people dont know there ass from there elbow this guy was in the watchtower 4 30 year and is still in the dark well i told him obout the wt inthe bomb bussisness he told me i was lieing but i told him to come with me to wall street an the un scandel as we all live in nyc myb brother was willing to pay theres day pay and take them in a limo to wall street to prove what i was saying was true you can guess even with the promise of a days pay and a 50$ steak each win or lose at the best steak house house in nyc they stilled called me a lair!!!!!!!!!
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johnny cip
sorry ; the spelling sucked, we were celebrating a little too much! way too much!!! but the point Mike beat him bad on the phone... we hit him with some of that proper spritual food from the 20's. (barf) after the elder said that the conventions of the 20's was forfullment of bible prophecy.... but he admitted he never read any of the wt's from that time... then the ?elder? said the wt never said they were prophets... so Mike read him a couple wt's that said the wt is a prophet.... and he said Mike is lying... so Mike said now see why john wants to study with you and the co in the kh library... so when we read the books right off the shelf you can't call us lairs.... then the ?elder went into the fruits of the sprit, and Mike said he didn't show any by not calling or stopping by and leaving a note on the door saying he couldn't make it... then the ?elder ? went into the preaching work and we said since the wt is teaching a FALSE GOSPEL it is all worthless...to make a long story short, Mike with a little help beat him on every point... this went on for an hour, it seemed that the ?elder? was timing the call so MIke said to him don't forget to put it down as time...lol now the ?elder? and the co are coming next saturday at noon>>>i already have a 1001 ways to make them look like spritual drunkards. but if any here give some input i will try to use it..... looks like there will be an exicution at high NOON.....JOHN
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p.o ,co blow out 1-11-03
by johnny cip inok so last week i gave a little of the action my brother and i gave the elders in bruckner cong in the bronx... and the p.o made an appointment to talk today at 12:30 p.m. at my house ... so guess what they never showed up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
but the phone book is a great thing and we found him check this .his name is howard stern???????
so we beat him for not phoning or droppping off a note that they couldn,t make it ,as we were wasted the beautiful day in waiting,.... this is mike talking well you can guess i got poor howard on the phone what a joke an the co now these people are appointed by the holy spirt that a joke ha ha lol these people dont know there ass from there elbow this guy was in the watchtower 4 30 year and is still in the dark well i told him obout the wt inthe bomb bussisness he told me i was lieing but i told him to come with me to wall street an the un scandel as we all live in nyc myb brother was willing to pay theres day pay and take them in a limo to wall street to prove what i was saying was true you can guess even with the promise of a days pay and a 50$ steak each win or lose at the best steak house house in nyc they stilled called me a lair!!!!!!!!!
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johnny cip
ok so last week i gave a little of the action my brother and i gave the elders in bruckner cong in the bronx... and the p.o made an appointment to talk today at 12:30 p.m. at my house ... so guess WHAT THEY NEVER SHOWED UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! but the phone book is a great thing and we found him check this .his name is howard stern??????? so we beat him for NOT phoning or droppping off a note thaT they couldn,t make it ,as we were wasted the beautiful day in waiting,.... this is mike talking well you can guess i got poor howard on the phone what a joke an the co now these people are appointed by the holy spirt that a joke ha ha lol these people dont know there ass from there elbow this guy was in the watchtower 4 30 year and is still in the dark well i told him obout the wt inthe bomb bussisness he told me i was lieing but i told him to come with me to wall street an the un scandel as we all live in nyc myb brother was willing to pay theres day pay and take them in a limo to wall street to prove what i was saying was true you can guess even with the promise of a days pay and a 50$ steak each win or lose at the best steak house house in nyc they stilled called me a lair!!!!!!!!! and wood not go but i beat them up 4 about an hour imean shut these guys down i had them begging for mercey we talk about false prophicies that i dont even see on this , site and i know next to nothing,... so thAT WAS mkeiE TALKLING and he shut down the po and co in less than a hour and i here that the wt is sending out elders to find inactive ones ....send any of these holy sprite
appointed elders to the BRONX to see me and i will kick the sh-t out ofn them with their own words..................... see i love going after them , the way they go after others.... we screw them EVERYTIME..... IF ANY X JW here don't like the way I F--K them toooooooo!!!!!!!bad freedom in CHRIST.....john
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lying decievers and their methods
by refiners fire in1922 certainly was a good year for watchtowers.
many of them were fascinating reading for an observant student of watchtower history.
recurring subjects that year revolved around russells chronology and the dogmatic insistance that russells dates were divinely inspired.
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johnny cip
thank you refiners;; whAt i always love is how in the wt today they print that the 1922 convention was bible truth, forfullment of prophecy, etc. my favorate is the 1959 wt were it says JEHOVAH MADE the judge preach the million campaign...lol did you get those quotes from a site ..if so which one .. i can not find a site with all the old wt's on it....john
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The Watchtower's Shameless Nazi-Milking
by metatron inif you've read the latest yearbook and magazines, you'll see.
that the watchtower is at it again - nazis, nazis, nazis!.
if you awoke from a half century coma and read this self serving.
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johnny cip
what seems to be lost in this thread, is the fact that the wt always says that the jw in the nazi era were following the truth.... jehovah's reveiled bible facts!!! lets see what the wt was teaching at the time: from the angels: don't have children now because the big a is in a few months,, vaccanations were from the devil and any THINKING PERSON WOULD RATHER HAVE SMALL POX!!!!!!!! issac abraham and jacob are to return any day now, ww2 is the beginning of the big A ... the dinosaurs are now living on VENUS!!!! eat grapes all day to kill cancer!!!!! hitler is the king of the north and he will win the war, and the u.s. and england will become dictatorships under hitler before the big A... hitler will take over the vatican... etc etc the list of this proper spritual food at the proper time from jah him self can go on for pages... so when any wt after ww11 says that the jw's were following GOD'S word in the nazi era, is all bullshit... it's that plain and simple... the wt LIES TODAY ABOUT EVERYTHING IN THEIR PAST........JOHN
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kh blow out 1-5-03
by johnny cip inok i waited a few days for this... on sunday i spoke to my dad and we argued about the same wt lies.. so he went for do you know what the wt is teaching today , i said sure do you want to go over a few new mag's .... he did the zombie walk ... so my brother and i went to a kh to get the new daniel and isaihyh's books , and we were invited to the wt study... so 2 hours we come back ...guess what the doors were locked????
so the po and a few elders came out to talk...the po called me a liar and said i never gave my address for a study before and said that at other times when i was there that i demanded to go into their library .. i said thats because you called me a liar infront of some of the friends so let me back up what i said... at this point they try to start a fist fight ,,but my brother stops it.. and they start talking to him.
.... my brother is not so good with the bible.... but he sure knows his wt... so i let him talk for about 40 minutes... and he shut down the po and the elders on every point even when they tried to use the bible.. i was amazed ... they walked baqck into the hall with their tails between their legs... the best part was when at the end after my brother whipped them from wt statements to the bible... he said and you fools are the leaders of this pitiful flock , you elders believe the holy sprit appointed you... you can't even understand a few 3rd grade bible verses... trust me it was the best witness i've seen in a long time... lets see if they show up for the beating ,i mean study the po set up for saturday i'll bet 100 to 1 they don't show.... freedom in christ !!!!!!!!!
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johnny cip
Hi Buster; i miss you too!!! but i've been reading some of your posts here.... i was sure it was you... always like your great reasoning!!!!! BEANS thats mostly what we used on these elders printed wt CRAP they never heard of ... that's why they wouldn't let me into the library lol.. i go to the hall with a bag full of incriminating crap they DON'T want to see!!!!i have no fear of them i go right to the source and they can't handle it.....john.
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kh blow out 1-5-03
by johnny cip inok i waited a few days for this... on sunday i spoke to my dad and we argued about the same wt lies.. so he went for do you know what the wt is teaching today , i said sure do you want to go over a few new mag's .... he did the zombie walk ... so my brother and i went to a kh to get the new daniel and isaihyh's books , and we were invited to the wt study... so 2 hours we come back ...guess what the doors were locked????
so the po and a few elders came out to talk...the po called me a liar and said i never gave my address for a study before and said that at other times when i was there that i demanded to go into their library .. i said thats because you called me a liar infront of some of the friends so let me back up what i said... at this point they try to start a fist fight ,,but my brother stops it.. and they start talking to him.
.... my brother is not so good with the bible.... but he sure knows his wt... so i let him talk for about 40 minutes... and he shut down the po and the elders on every point even when they tried to use the bible.. i was amazed ... they walked baqck into the hall with their tails between their legs... the best part was when at the end after my brother whipped them from wt statements to the bible... he said and you fools are the leaders of this pitiful flock , you elders believe the holy sprit appointed you... you can't even understand a few 3rd grade bible verses... trust me it was the best witness i've seen in a long time... lets see if they show up for the beating ,i mean study the po set up for saturday i'll bet 100 to 1 they don't show.... freedom in christ !!!!!!!!!
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ok i waited a few days for this... on sunday i spoke to my dad and we argued about the same wt lies.. so he went for do you know what the wt is teaching today , i said sure do you want to go over a few new mag's .... he did the zombie walk ... so my brother and i went to a kh to get the new daniel and isaihyh's books , and we were invited to the wt study... so 2 hours we come back ...guess what the doors were locked???? so the po and a few elders came out to talk...the po called me a liar and said i never gave my address for a study before and said that at other times when i was there that i demanded to go into their library .. i said thats because you called me a liar infront of some of the friends so let me back up what i said... at this point they try to start a fist fight ,,but my brother stops it.. and they start talking to him. .... my brother is not so good with the bible.... but he sure knows his wt... so i let him talk for about 40 minutes... and he shut down the po and the elders on every point even when they tried to use the bible.. i was amazed ... they walked baqck into the hall with their tails between their legs... the best part was when at the end after my brother whipped them from wt statements to the bible... he said and you FOOLS ARE THE LEADERS OF THIS PITIFUL FLOCK , YOU ELDERS BELIEVE THE HOLY SPRIT APPOINTED YOU... YOU CAN'T EVEN UNDERSTAND A FEW 3RD GRADE BIBLE VERSES... trust me it was the best witness i've seen in a long time... lets see if they show up for the beating ,i mean study the po set up for saturday i'll bet 100 to 1 they don't show.... freedom in christ !!!!!!!!! john
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"2008" End of this system...??
by breeze inmy theory
maybe the org was right with all of their predictions about the timeline of 607bc 1914?
except for the small difference, the time that jesus spent on the earth was exempt from the calculations?
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johnny cip
gordy; you are rightn the wt already tried 1878 and every other date they could work off these numbers
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So, where DID the 1914 timeline go awry?
by Xander inokay, i know that historical evidence is that jerusalem fell in 586/7 instead of 607 - as the wtbts would have.
however, that is not compelling enough to show a hypothetical jw.
they (generally) must not only be show that the opposition is correct, but that the wtbts is wrong.
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johnny cip
?scholar?; what part of this is so hard for you ???? i'll make it 3rd grade easy for you OK.... first check jeremiah.. it clearly says NATIONS WILL GIVE SERVITUDE TO BABALON FOR 70 YEARS...EASY ENOUGH ,that means nations will have to pay a tax,or give slaves ,food, money, crops ,livestock, what ever.. so now let's get on with the facts 3rd grade style, easy simple ok in 609b.c. babylon took over the asyians and took over most of the kingdoms in their area. in 605b.c. they got to jerusalem and beat the jews, and took money and slaves etc... but it was not destroyed.. this all took place in nebbcadnessers father's rule and the first year of nebuchdnezzerar's rule. even if my spelling sucks it is easy to follow. now the bible says CLEARLY THAT JERUSELEM WAS DESTROYED IN NEBUCHADNEZZAR'S 18TH YEAR.. look it up it's in the bible, add 587 plus 18 you get 605 ...that might be 4th grade math,.now i'm not going over your head.. now to make a long story short to keep it in a GRADE SCHOOL LEVEL... you tAKE THE DATE THAT THE WT AND ALL WORLD HISTORY AGREES ON 539B.C. WHEN CRYUS beat the babylons and you ADD 70 OF SERVITUDE TO BABYLON AND YOU GET 609.BC. IF you dig enough you will find that the temple was finished in 517b.c. so now you have two time lines that give you 70 years... i spent many months, 3 years ago looking this stuff up ...and i can clearly see how secular history and the bible are in harmony with 587b.c. and every other date , and i only have a high school education.. in fact my 11 year old daugther was advanced enough to understand the math and add up the numbers....i have read many wt books on this and the bible verses they use , and you would need to be an idiot,retartard,or living in wt zombie land to believe that markley!!!!! keep in mind i will not do no research for you... you need to do it for yourself with out your wt rose colored glasses... call the wt and see if they still have any of those radium biola corrective glasses they were selling at the 1922 convention... now what university are you from, that gives b.a.'s ,m.a. master's and ph'ds to restroom attendents. i would love to sit in on one of your classes and give you a PU degree in shit sniffing, as your posts show that's your speciality...john